Here is an image for your Saturday morning viewing pleasure.
This ad for the Folsom Street Fair apparently angered some ex-gay and fundie activists. No surprise there. However, a blogger on Ex-Gay Watch was also offended.
As for the fundies (and the “no longer gay” closet cases), I wonder what offended them the most:
a. Jesus is black.
b. Jesus is gay.*
c. Jesus is surrounded by gay men, women, leather men, drag queens.
d. All of the above.
The poster on Ex-Gay Watch has a view that many gay conservatives and religious types hold. This writer is concerned about the appropriation of a sacred image, which is obviously Leonardo da Vinci’s The Last Supper. Appropriation of this iconic painting as blasphemy is very superfluous. The real concern of this blogger is that the ad endorses “medically dangerous acts, its inversion of the values of faith, love and self-sacrifice.”
As much as I can appreciate his perspective, to waste energy taking exception to this image is an “inversion of the values of faith, love and self-sacrifice.” Jesus would would not be as concerned about this image as he would with the fundies, the ex-gays, and even the gayly pious. The people depicted in this photo are the unacceptable of modern society and even the mainstream gay community. Anyone familiar with the Gospels knows that Christ reached out to the outcasts and those the righteous and holy rejected. Somewhere along the line, modern Christians, even gay ones, have failed to follow Christ’s example.
*only an inference, nothing else.
I’m not talking about myself, of course. Anyone who’s read this blog and anyone who knows me in real time would laugh if I said that. I found this vid on Ex-Gay Watch, and this young man tries to explain why he isn’t gay, despite that he’s a flaming queen. I do, however, feel a great deal of sympathy for him as he reveals his conflicting feelings and beliefs in this rambling post.
Here are some noteworthy quotes:
It’s not my fault I find men attractive. And, yes, I still find men attractive.
I’ve never gone around sleeping with men, I’ve never gone around making out with men, I’ve never really lived the gay lifestyle and I really don’t want to. I just find men attractive and I know that in time that will fade. It has faded a lot… It has faded a lot..
I want to be accepted by other men, I want to be friends with men, I want to be loved by men, I want to minister to men, I want to love men…
At least on some level he can accept being gay as part of himself, though he likens it to a disease. Although, I don’t think gayness ever fades over time. I’ve been there. I hate that I wasted my late teens and my early twenties dealing with this BS and spent the later twenties getting un-fucked up from it. Regarding the third quote, amen to that and I say that as a gay man.
I must say that his “attraction” to men will not be an insignificant issue in his list of problems in the years to come.
I received this lovely response from Michael Glatze regarding “No Longer Gay?,” one of my posts from Tuesday, July 3 (I’m sure I’m not the only one). I did, as a courtesy, include his “coming out” as ex-gay column as a link in my post, but giving the reader access to his story isn’t enough. In all fairness, his side of the story along with his insipid, but deadly theology should be heard. He did ask me to post this to my blog, and I’m obliging him. I am too kind.
To My Friends Who Are Trapped In Homosexuality
By Michael Glatze
Thank you for your kind comments and keen observations regarding my story and my revelation about no longer being homosexual and now being heterosexual. I thank you for the time that you have spent in considering this issue, deeply, and with great passion. God loves you.
God is right there, within you, whether you like to see Him or not. Can you humble yourself to Him? It’s a really nice feeling. I know that, in some small way, you want to. We all do. We don’t like being separated from our Father; it makes us sad and lonely, forcing us to be angry, to act out, to get vulgar well, I won’t go on; many of you have already demonstrated, on your blog comments, exactly what I’m
talking about. ?
God love you, Yes! He does! And, He wants you to be free from homosexuality. God made us men and women. Think about that; you could really be a man or a woman! Not a strange creature but, real! That’s awesome ?
Change is very difficult and takes a lot of inner strength. Do you have that strength? I promise you that the Gay Identity does not exist, that it is a fabrication of mankind (look it up, if you don’t believe me), and that you are not “trapped” in same-sex-orientation. To believe that you are Gay is to be stupid. I’m sorry, if that sounds cruel; it’s not cruel. To believe that you are a false identity, created by man, unnaturally, to participate in social engineering, is
to be stupid.
It’s not the acts, as much as it is the Identity. No one ever told you that, before, because they wanted to feed you with the lie that homosexuality is a set thing. Any intelligent “homosexual” knows there’s no fixed Gay Identity. If you don’t believe me, ask the theorists or “intellectuals.” ?
Gay Identity has been packaged and fed to you, and if you believe yourself to be “Gay” you have eaten it, preventing you from further growth and understanding of your true and real self.
Coming out from under this packaged lie requires strong self-confidence and will and desire to know the Truth. Yes, Truth is capitalized. It is that way for a reason. There is only one Truth.
That one Truth is the fact that you are beautiful, perfect, and glorious, in the image of He who created you God. There is only one God. I know it may be hard for you to get your head around the paradoxical nature of God but, He is everywhere “out there” and at the same time right inside your soul. He sees and knows you. He
loves you. ?
He wants you to be free of homosexuality. I promise you that. He’s rooting for you; He knows you can do it. Remember, He loves you! He’s not judging you those angry voices in your mind, planted there by Satan, might scream and judge and ridicule but, no; He’s not judging you. He has patience. He’ll give you strength. All you have to do is pray to Him.
Prayer and love True Love, my dear friends requires total humility. Can you do that?
I know, in my heart, that all homosexuals desire to be free.
It is a new world, one in which the lie will not stand much longer. The tide is turning. Be not afraid! It’s a good change! Jesus will come. ? And, when that day happens, will you be truly yourself!? Or, will you be a demon, trapped in a fabrication not your own, lusting and hating and destroying your soul to hell? Consider this one last thing: all the love you may believe you feel for yourself or for someone else, while trapped in the homosexual mindset, is a grain of sand on the beach of the love that you could feel. Healing is possible. When you choose to go there, you know who to call on for help. His name is Jesus Christ.
Chris is right. Those smilies are so annoying. Did Glatze’s conversion, LIKE, turn him into a Valley Girl? Like, Omigod! It’s like totally awesome!
It’s fun to find out that Michael Glatze’s now a Mormon. This I found out on Ex-Gay watch this morning:
- Dave Rattigan, Ex-Gay Watch: Glatze Is LDS Convert – Why the Silence?
I also confirmed I’m not the only blogger hit by the e-mail reproduced in full above.
I found this on Ex-Gay Watch about Michael Glatze, former editor of Young Gay America, who does a 180 after finding Jesus though dealing with his illness and personal problems.
Why is it when some gays “find Jesus,” they become serious homophobes? Perhaps the question is, when some gay activists become “born again Christians,” why do they go on a campaign to inflict their self-loathing upon everyone else?
The new, reformed Glatze now denounces the aims and goals of his magazine and sees homosexuality as not only the root of his problems, but everyone else’s as well. He seems to be unaware of the damaging effects of the closets when they are places to hide, not store one’s frocks and fabulous shoes. The frightening thing is I have met religious closeted types who dress better than me or any other out gay or lesbian person I know.
I digress, but what he says is interesting:
God gave us truth for a reason. It exists so we could be ourselves. It exists so we could share that perfect self with the world, to make the perfect world. These are not fanciful schemes or strange ideals.
The idea of truth existing so we could be ourselves sounds wonderful. Unfortunately, the context is Glatze’s newfound hateful rhetoric. Here is the the rest of what he says, right from the horse’s mouth.
Another interesting though on Ex-Gay Watch: Relationship with God: Who Needs the Ex-Gay Middleman?
As those who tune in to the broadcasts on ShindoTV know, I have quite a few posts on the ex-gay subject. I have also posted some of my reasons for posting on this topic. These people in the following videos, brought to you by exgaysurvivordan on YouTube, have been through a lot in the ex-gay programs, but they have lived to tell about it. In each of these vids, they reveal the mindset of what’s going on in someone’s mind when they’re participating in these programs.
Here is my friend Jaylen briefly talking of his experience of thinking he fell in love with a woman, which happily resulted in a lifelong friend instead. I love how he describes the unexpected feeling of falling in love with a man during this period.
Micheal Bussee, a co-founder who walked away from Exodus, gives some insight to the rationalizations one makes when feeling transformed at point and then having to face that their innate homosexual nature isn’t going away anytime soon.
Shawn O’Donnell, whose video accompanies “Why I Post On This Subject,” articulates that denial, not change happened during his ex-gay years.
My friend Gary, who helps keep me and several other friends posted on this topic, sent me this article a few days ago in the LA Times: Three Former Leaders Of Ex-Gay Ministries Apologize.
It is nice these people apologized. On some level, I never saw it as necessary because their efforts now have been to show that despite some sincere motivations, they saw how harmful ex-gay theology and therapy is. Hopefully, what they said will reach those who need to hear it.
I have a hard time believing is Alan Chambers, current president, is sincere. He and a few others have managed to make a living from self-hatred (theirs and their clients’) and doing the right thing would require a financial price. And, is there room for to forgive these perps if they ever step down?
Huffington Post, “A Call For A Dialogue from an Ex-‘Ex Gay.'”
Tonight’s broadcast on ShindoTV is brought to you by Shawn O’Donnell, Wayne Besen, and Truth Wins Out. This video is posted on Ex-Gay Watch and addresses the denial ex-gays go through, especially when they “lapse” into doing some very gay things.
With the postings and the videos on this subject, I’m sure some of my readers suspect I have some personal history with the ex-gay movement. The answer to that is “yes.” I was eighteen years old when I became a born-gain Christian and got the idea that being gay was wrong. I soon started going to Homosexuals Anonymous and I became fast friends with this very handsome guy in his late twenties (whom I’ll call Malcolm). He was tall (between 6’2″-6’4″), had a swimmer’s build and dark brown hair and blue eyes, and had a carried himself with an easy, masculine charm. He soon became my confidant and his attraction to me would spill dangerously into our phone conversations (with an interesting amound of denial). Interestingly, we never hooked up for sex until two years after knowing each other. By then, the sexual tension was very high and it would be my first time.
By 1997, I woke up to how awful fundamentalism is and came out of the closet shortly after.
I wonder if Malcolm ever reads this blog.
I may write more about it in the future. It’s difficult to revisit this time in my life, so I’ve dealt with it by posting videos about the “ex-gay” ministries and making fun of the perpetrators as they richly deserve.
This broadcast on ShindoTV is brought to you today by Ex-Gay Watch. This comical video shows a skit about someone who’s trying to be straight via Exeter International (which, of course, is a spoof on Exodus International). From a video previously aired on this channel, fiction isn’t necessary to show how crackpot this stuff can really be. Richard Cohen is a real piece of work and Jimmy Kimmel and John Stewart really don’t need to do much to show how ridiculous he really is. Then, there is the spoiled brat tantrum of Dr. Nicolosi (which puts Christopher Guest’s outbursts on Waiting For Guffman to shame). A little scripted comedy is always fun to highlight the absurdity of some things, as the bald ex-gay guy can tell you.
It’s funny. I’ve never objected to barbecues (love them), never had problems talking to mechanics, but I never got into football. It’s not really that hard to follow, but I just never got into it. Yet, these guys get it into their heads that they must make themselves like football. Sorry, I’d much rather watch the players, not the game.
Adopting a perceived idea of masculinity is always interesting, as demonstrated by Richard Cohen, and lightly spoofed by the bald-headed guy. Of course, I have to wonder how many nelly guys there are trying to “straighten” themselves out in churches (or for other reasons, God only knows), but anyone who casually observes them knows they are GAY and gayer than any openly practicing homosexual.
Here’s a more disturbing video. This is not comedy and the young men and women who talk are not actors. This is a brief documentary that exposes the young fundamentalists who code their homophobic campaign as “Telling The Truth In Love.” One is a former student from Poway High (yikes! right in San Diego County) who wore anti-gay messages taped to his t-shirt a few years back. Others are young, suburban WASPy types who may need to get laid instead of worrying about others’ sex lives. Needless to say, this clip calls them on their BS.
The ex-gay guys just need to watch something like Jamie Bamber’s towel nearly falling off. If they say it doesn’t do anything for them, they’re lying.
On my previous post on this subject, This Man Wants To Cure Your Homosexuality, we met Richard Cohen, a nutjob who played with fire by being on the Jimmy Kimmel Show and the Daily Show and got burnt to a crisp. Of course, it doesn’t help that he also embarassed himself on CNN demonstrating his “bio-energetic” tennis racket swing on pillows and how he did snuggle therapy with a (presumably) cute guy who couldn’t show his face on camera. Poor pillows. They take up the brunt of his rage against his daddy, and he offers the love he never had from father to his patients.
Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, leader of NARTH (which sounds as ominous as DARTH Vader), has for years tried to put a secular face on ex-gay therapy. A push uphill, since neither the American Pyschological Association nor American Psychiatric Association have recognized homosexuality as a mental illness since the early 1970’s. Since he has no legitimacy among his peers, he has taken his message to folks (read funny mentalists) such as Focus on the Family, who like to use him to show the ex-gay movement is not strictly religious. It’s still snake oil. It’s strange that someone could publicly put forth rhetoric on this subject, yet his ideas can’t stand the scrutiny of objective journalistic questioning. He can’t even handle himself gracefully, and his petulant refusal to answer questions bites him on the arse.
He’s lucky this isn’t Penn and Teller’s Bull$h1T! They would have let him talk and then skewer him on their show.
Why do ridiculous men like him do this? Where there’s misery, there’s an opportunity to make money. There’s always someone who does not like themselves, and they’ll shell out tons of money to change. Plastic surgeons have operated on this principle, so some charlatans feel compelled to give gays a makeover to straighten them out.
Here, James Spader out-shatners William Shater. His speech in Boston Legal demonstrates the aims of people in the ex-gay industry. Watch and enjoy.
Real Life Brokeback Mountain Parallel
Here’s the story of Gary, a former Baptist minister and a good friend of mine, who had a “David and Jonathan” type of relationship as a young preacher. Doomed from the start, the relationship had a devastating impact on his ministry and family, and he went down the painful road of trying to get rid of his homosexuality. In recent years, he has gone through the process of reclaiming his Christian beliefs along with coming out as an openly gay man. He’s also been a wonderful mentor to others reconciling their faith with being gay. Check out his essay.